Liberated from the Post-Dispatch article here.
Even if it becomes law, Illinois freedom of speech won’t apply to Missourians
Even if Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn signs newly passed freedom of speech legislation into law, Missouri freedom of speech permit-holders shouldn’t plan on visiting the Land of Lincoln while speaking freely any time soon.
The legislation that lawmakers passed Friday, under orders from a federal court, doesn’t contain any reciprocity language.
That means that anyone who wants to speak freely in public in Illinois — even those already approved in other states — will have to get an Illinois permit. That in turn means paying a $300 non-resident fee (double the in-state fee) and taking 16 hours of training.
Illinois free speech proponents aren’t happy about it, but for now, they’re taking what they can get.
“We would have preferred reciprocity, but this is the first time out,” noted Van Toddermyde, an ACLU Illinois lobbyist. “The first step is to see what the governor does.”
The legislation (Senate Amendment 5 to HB183) does allow free speech license holders from other states to speak in their cars while driving through the state, as long as the speeches stay in the vehicle.
Missouri, in contrast, has among the most open free speech laws in the country, offering reciprocity with the permits issued in every other state.
Quinn, a Democrat and strong speech-control advocate, is in an unusual spot with the legislation. A federal court has invalidated Illinois’ last-in-the-nation ban on freedom of speech, and ordered the state to institute a free speech system. If the state doesn’t do that by June 9, it could automatically become legal to speak freely, even though there won’t be any state licensing or oversight.
On Tuesday, 11/8/11, St. Louis Tea Party attended confab between the Occupy St. Louis stinkers and Mayor Slay’s mod squad. Sadly, I ran out of juice long before the fun really started. But, you can get a great idea of the level of insanity that is brewing in the City.
OStL made it clear that they were not going to leave the park. St. Louis City Representatives were conned into giving them 24-hours notice before any eviction. Why does OStL want 24-hours notice? I know. Hopefully the brain-trust on the Mayor’s staff will figure it out before they do it.
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One note to remember is that the OStL twits have a mindless view that no law can enhance the First Amendment Right to Assemble and Freedom of Speech. Clearly they would support Workplace Sexual Harassment and Shouting “Fire” in a Crowded Theater.
The President has never thought very much of our Constitution. In his well-known radio interview, he opined openly that the fatal flaw of the Constitution was that it did not redistribute American’s wealth in a manner that suited him.
His supporters on the left have ravenously attacked free-speech rights with the reintroduction of the Fairness Doctrine in an effort to control what is said on talk radio. The FCC will likely complete the task through regulation as the Administration continues its
And, in November 2010, the Administration attacked our 4th Amendment rights to freedom from unreasonable search and seizure with the unconstitutional TSA Porno Scan and Grope-Down. I wrote about it here and experienced it here.
You would think the usurpation of the U.S. Citizens’ civil rights would be a matter of concern for President Obama. In fact it is not. It is a matter of comedy. This past Tuesday, President Obama had the audacity to joke during the State Of The Union Address about the TSA’s Unconstitutional Searches:
What a National Shame this man continues to be. Add to your outrage the visual of Vice President Biden smiling and clapping, Nancy Pelosi smiling and clapping, and many many members of the House, Senate, and Supreme Court clapping along as President Obama jokes about the TSA Groping Grannies and Sexually Scanning Sixteen-Year-Olds in a manner that would get a State Policeman arrested for Pedophilia.
If you want to test your logic to see whether or not this is an outrage, know this. The A.C.L.U. was actually aghast at Obama’s jokes. When the ACLU is on the side of logic and the people in general, there must be something wrong.
While I generally consider Jesse Ventura to be a bit ‘out there‘, he’s getting ready to give the TSA a flying elbow drop with his announcement on Monday 1/24/11 that he will sue the TSA for infringement on his/our 4th Amendment rights!
On January 5th, I myself was subjected to the invasive and unconstitutional infringement on my 4th Amendment rights by an agent of the Federal Government. At the St. Louis Terminal (as in termination of rights), Michelle was waved through the Metal Detector, and I was pointed toward the AIT (Porno) Scanner.
The 4th Amendment to the Constitution expressly forbids the Federal Government from unreasonable search and seizure without warrant or affirmation of a crime. My purchase of an Airline Ticket and appearance at the Airport in no way constitute the commission of a crime. Yet, I was expected to stand naked in front of a Federal Agent for the purpose of searching my person. No, I was not expected to remove my clothes, however, with technology, the Federal Agent would have been able to view me in an unclothed manner.
I opted out of the AIT Scanner and was subjected to a humiliating hand pat-down which included being touched on my crotch and buttocks by the Federal Agent.
No accusation of a crime. No evidence of malfeasance. Nothing. Just the desire to travel freely gives the Obama Administration and the TSA, in their estimation, the right to view or touch my private body parts.
Check out my post here for a discussion of the 4th Amendment and the TSA.
As for Jesse Ventura, I applaud you for taking the lead on this expansion of the Federal Government and invasion of our rights.
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I mean… …liberals call for removal of free speech rights. That’s much more apropos in the twisted mind of a liberal.
In the meme of never letting a tragedy go to waste, liberals, politicians and pundits alike, are lining up to decry the vitriol and toxic speech in our current political climate. They are convicting free speech rights as the final straw that sent poor Jared Loughner over the edge of his psychoses to kill 6 and injure 13.
One note at the bottom of CNN’s screen indicated that a Bill was all ready to be introduced to limit the speech deemed toxic and hateful in politics and public discourse.
Illegal Immigrants – I mean Invaders – kill American citizens every day, and there is no liberal outcry to have their presence in the U.S. removed. There is no condescending CNN / MSNBC newscasters calling for reason and sanity. I suspect more than 6 Americans have been killed by Invaders since the Tucson shooting! Certainly more than 13 have been injured in auto accidents, stabbings, and robberies.
I have posed often that it’s going to take the killing of a Senator or above (or one of their children) to get the same outrage against the Invaders that there will be against Free Speech.
This Administration has successfully stripped us of our 4th Amendment rights via the TSA in the name false security. Now, they’ll have ample opportunity to work to remove our 1st and 2nd Amendment rights in the name of protecting us as well.
Count on it!
Oh, and it’s Bush’s fault for starting all those wars too! Just heard someone whine that on the CNN too.
This out of the Winter Wonderlands:
“This undated [AP] photo provided by Amber Caldwell, shows a snowman that depicts a white hooded figure associated with the Klu Klux Klan in the front yard of Mark Eliseuson in Hayden, Idaho.
Kootenai County sheriff’s deputies told Eliseuson Wednesday, Dec. 1, 2010 that he could be charged with a crime because the 10-foot-tall snowman was holding what appeared to be a noose. Deputies were called by neighbors who were appalled by the pointy-headed snowman with two dark eyes”
Will the same Kootenai County sheriff’s deputies be stopping by the Smithsonian to curb the freedom of speech on display there in the Hide/Seek Exhibition. Will Blake Gopnik approve of Mr. Eliseuson’s display?
Maybe Mr. Eliseuson’s best bet is to drive his hooded snow-man to Washington, DC where it will be proudly displayed at the Smithsonian’s Art Institute.
Mr. Eliseuson’s display is certainly not one I would put up in my yard, and neither would I run a video of and ant-covered crucifix. But, it is certainly his right under the First Amendment to erect such a display!
Would the Kootenai County sheriff’s deputies and Blake Gopnik approve if Sarah Palin was hung in Eliseuson’s noose?
Would the Kootenai County sheriff’s deputies and Blake Gopnik approve if George Bush was hung in Eliseuson’s noose?
Would the Kootenai County sheriff’s deputies and Blake Gopnik approve if Barack Obama was hung in Eliseuson’s noose?
Bottom line. While disgusting, Eliseuson has the same free speech and expression rights as the Smithsonian!
It’s a hate crime? Read the the last sentence of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.
The Fourth Amendment to our U.S. Constitution states “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
Boiling it down to the issue with the TSA, the Amendment would read:
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
Thus, to allege that the Federal Government is infringing upon our 4th Amendment Rights, one would need to prove that:
– The search is unreasonable
– The search is without probable cause
– There was not a warrant, oath or affirmation
THE SEARCH IS UNREASONABLE!
The Supreme Court has held that to satisfy the Fourth Amendment, a search of a student by school officials [Federal Government] must be reasonable at the start. In the case of Savana Redding, the court found the strip search to be unreasonable and without cause. Yet, at least she was accused of possessing prescription strength Ibuprofen on school grounds — against the rules.
In the case of the TSA vs You and Me, the Federal Government, under the guise of security, is requiring U.S. Citizens to show their naked bodies to Federal Agents or allow Federal agents to touch their (usually clothed) genitalia. The question of whether or not that search is reasonable might be answered by comparing the security requirements of air travel to that of other areas in the U.S. that need to be most secure.
Are there AIT Scanners and Aggressive Pat-Downs required to enter the White House? NORAD? The Pentagon? The Supreme Court? The Capitol? A University Of Nebraska Football Game? A St. Louis Cardinals baseball game?
How about the Northern U.S. Border? The Southern U.S. Border?
If those security-necessary locations are not employing the same rigorous screenings, why is the airport front and center? One could kill 50 thousand football fans with a bomb in their underwear. Since 9/11, the terrorists haven’t been able to get past a few airline passengers!
I was recently at the U.S. Capitol and the Supreme Court and such rigorous screenings were not required. If it’s not required at the above sensitive locations, then it is not reasonable as a pre-condition for passenger flight.
Additionally, it has been widely reported that other more reasonable methods for reviewing airline passengers are available:
– Obscured AIT Scans
– Thermal Infrared
– Psychological Profiling
THE SEARCH IS WITHOUT PROBABLE CAUSE!
Simply put, the purchase of an airline ticket and arrival at an airport is no more probable cause to require an unreasonable search than the purchase of a baseball ticket and arrival at the stadium.
If the person purchasing the ticket exhibits any of the tell-tale signs of such terrorist activities (one-way tickets / no baggage / cash purchase) or is on a terrorist watch list, the TSA can easily ‘affirm’ that there is ‘probable cause’ to aggressively search or scan.
Otherwise, there is not probable cause to search / scan a 3-year-old, nun, Marine, cancer survivor or a pilot.
THERE WAS NOT A WARRANT, OATH OR AFFIRMATION
Again, pretty simple, a judge didn’t even hear your name.
A local radio host suggested a couple of things.
1. (Paraphrased) “You don’t have a right to go to any restaurant you want. They can have signs that say they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. ”
While that is true, restaurants are not going to refuse your patronage without a good reason (probable cause). Additionally, there are other restaurants that I can frequent. In the case of air travel, the Federal Government (again) has taken away my right to choose. There are no non-groping, non-porno-scan options for me.
2. (Paraphrased) “If left to their own devices, an airline’s invasive security methods might be much worse should they be assigned with the task of handling their own security.”
I strongly support the idea that American Airlines, Delta, and Southwest would handle their own security. To keep customers at their doors, the airline would have the desire to match the desire to keep their planes bomb-free with the passengers’ desires to be clothed, untouched, and protected by the 4th Amendment. Then, I (you know… …with freedom) could choose the airline whose security screening methods best meet my concern for safety and my 4th amendment rights.
The TSA does not care about the passengers’ desires — obviously. As Janet Napolitano said, “Don’t fly!”
Under the free market paradigm, if American Airlines chose to subject all its passengers to full body scans and aggressive pat-downs, then I could choose to fly on an airline that chose to use magnetometers, light pat-downs, and psychological screening — say Delta. If Jet Blue decided to use Racial and Religious Profiling, magnetometers, and below-the-knee AIT Scanners, I might decide to fly with them.
And, if Southwest decided to “refuse service” to anyone known to be a Muslim or of Arab descent, I’d buy stock!
Freedom and the free market would provide the necessary security and screening options for the U.S. Citizen traveler!